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    Cubs/Sox Dynasty

    With the Cubs bounced, my interest in MLB is limited until spring, which means I get to start my new OOTP league a little early this year, to get me through the off-season (which really means I'll probably lose interest by Thanksgiving). I remember my first real interest in baseball came during the '76 World Series. Growing up in a die-hard Cubs family, I was all-in come ’77. I started many seasons with the Cubs, using Strat-O-Matic, but was pretty much always disappointed in the cardboard version as I was with the real deal. I screwed around and made lop-sided trades for George Brett, Tom Seaver, Cesar Cedeno, etc., but the only time I ever made a satisfying “fantasy” team was when I decided to merge the Cubs and Sox using the ’78 card set.

    For some reason, I never tried this using OOTP until last week. This dynasty is beginning with the ’76 season - if a player played in one game for either team during 1976, they are a part of my new franchise for the entire season. I won’t be making any transactions, but am allowing the rest of the league to go nuts.

    Opening Day roster:

    SP Rick Reuschel
    SP Steve Renko
    SP Bill Bonham
    SP Joe Coleman
    SP Francisco Barrios

    RP Terry Forster
    RP Mike Garman
    RP Rich Gossage
    RP Ramon Hernandez
    RP Bart Johnson
    RP Darold Knowles
    RP Steve Stone
    RP Bruce Sutter

    C Brian Downing
    C Sam Ewing
    1B Minnie Minoso
    1B Andre Thornton
    2B Mike Adams
    2B Jack Brohamer
    2B Jorge Orta
    3B Bill Madlock
    SS Chet Lemon
    LF Jose Cardenal
    CF Rick Monday
    RF Ralph Garr

    Reserves, down on the farm:

    SP Ken Brett
    SP Ray Burris
    SP Jesse Jefferson
    SP Pete Vuckovich
    SP Wilbur Wood
    RP Ken Crosby
    RP Tom Detorre
    RP Ken Frailing
    RP Dave Hamilton
    RP Chris Knapp
    RP Ken Kravec
    RP Mike Krukow
    RP Jack Kucek
    RP Larry Monroe
    RP Blue Moon Odom
    RP Jim Otten
    RP Paul Reuschel
    RP Buddy Schultz
    RP Geoff Zahn
    RP Oscar Zamora
    CL Clay Carroll

    C George Enright
    C Jim Essian
    C Tim Hosley
    C Randy Hundley
    c George Mitterwald
    c Ed Putnam
    C Phil Roof
    C Steve Swisher
    C Pete Varney

    1B Jerry Hairston Sr.
    1B Lamar Johnson
    1B Tim Spencer
    1b Champ Summers
    1B Larry Biittner
    1B Jerry Tabb
    1B Wayne Tyrone
    2B Alan Bannister
    2B Dave Rosello
    2B Manny Trillo
    3B Kevin Bell
    3B Hugh Yancy
    3B Bill Stein
    SS Bucky Dent
    SS Mick Kelleher
    SS Rob Sperring
    LF Buddy Bradford
    LF Cleon Jones
    LF Pete LaCock
    LF Carlos May
    LF Wayne Nordhagen
    LF Nyls Nyman
    RF Rich Coggins
    RF Pat Kelly
    RF Jerry Morales
    RF Joe Wallis

    PRESEASON PREDICTIONS
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    AL PREDICTED STANDINGS EAST DIVISION:
    Team                   W   L  PCT  GB
    New York Yankees     103  59 .636   -
    Baltimore Orioles     88  74 .543  15
    Boston Red Sox        86  76 .531  17
    Cleveland Indians     84  78 .519  19
    Detroit Tigers        72  90 .444  31
    Milwaukee Brewers     64  98 .395  39
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    AL PREDICTED STANDINGS WEST DIVISION
    Team                   W   L  PCT  GB
    Kansas City Royals    98  64 .605   -
    Minnesota Twins       88  74 .543  10
    Oakland Athletics     87  75 .537  11
    California Angels     85  77 .525  13
    Texas Rangers         83  79 .512  15
    Chicago White Sox     37 125 .228  61
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    TOP HITTERS
    Player             Team    G  AB  HR  RBI  SB  AVG  OBP  SLG
    G. Brett, 3B         KC  155 613  14   93  19 .359 .412 .545
    R. Carew, 1B        MIN  158 601   7   86  46 .341 .406 .451
    H. McRae, LF         KC  155 612  10   87  23 .312 .384 .459
    J. Rice, LF         BOS  156 621  28  109  10 .295 .335 .493
    L. Bostock, CF      MIN  156 647   5   62  18 .318 .371 .436
    C. Cooper, 1B       BOS  162 715  18   84  20 .295 .314 .445
    O. Gamble, RF       NYY  157 596  26  100   7 .279 .369 .478
    M. Rivers, CF       NYY  155 683   5   68  50 .307 .337 .401
    R. Jackson, RF      BAL  158 604  21   88  21 .278 .351 .454
    J. Mayberry Sr, 1B   KC  159 557  19   87   1 .266 .378 .429
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    TOP PITCHERS
    Player        Team  G  W  L  S   ERA     IP   HA  BB   K   K/9
    J. Palmer      BAL 34 22  6  0  2.11  272.2  212  66 157  5.18
    D. Eckersley   CLE 32 19  7  0  2.11  251.2  191  82 205  7.33
    N. Ryan        CAL 32 13  9  0  2.46  255.2  150 140 282  9.93
    F. Tanana      CAL 34 14 15  0  2.63  277.0  213  78 250  8.12
    B. Blyleven    MIN 33 17  9  0  2.63  256.2  210  76 214  7.50
    G. Perry       TEX 34 20 10  0  2.59  274.0  249  47 188  6.18
    V. Blue        OAK 37 20 12  0  2.52  289.0  246  89 197  6.13
    D. Goltz       MIN 33 19  8  0  2.50  259.2  230  79 145  5.03
    R. May         NYY 33 19  8  0  2.28  264.1  213  87 149  5.07
    D. Leonard      KC 32 15 11  0  2.83  251.2  197  81 187  6.69
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    NL PREDICTED STANDINGS EAST DIVISION
    Team                     W  L   PCT  GB
    Philadelphia Phillies  101  61 .623   -
    Pittsburgh Pirates      92  70 .568   9
    Chicago Cubs            91  71 .562  10
    New York Mets           77  85 .475  24
    St. Louis Cardinals     77  85 .475  24
    Montreal Expos          51 111 .315  50
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    NL PREDICTED STANDINGS WEST DIVISION
    Team                     W  L  PCT  GB
    Cincinnati Reds        109 53 .673   -
    San Diego Padres        83 79 .512  26
    Houston Astros          82 80 .506  27
    Los Angeles Dodgers     75 87 .463  34
    San Francisco Giants    69 93 .426  40
    Atlanta Braves          67 95 .414  42
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    TOP HITTERS
    Player            Team    G  AB  HR  RBI  SB  AVG  OBP  SLG
    B. Madlock, 3B     CHC  158 631  12  100  26 .331 .376 .448
    S. Garvey, 1B      LAD  159 664  19  102  11 .316 .345 .461
    G. Foster, LF      CIN  159 624  29  133   8 .295 .352 .486
    P. Rose Sr, 3B     CIN  159 643   6   82   8 .325 .387 .437
    J. Cardenal, LF    CHC  154 676   9   73  38 .297 .351 .393
    C. Cedeno, CF      HOU  159 663  15   74  76 .284 .336 .422
    J. Morgan, 2B      CIN  157 550  10   73  64 .265 .410 .389
    D. Driessen, 1B    CIN  162 615  16  101  47 .278 .360 .411
    B. McBride, CF     STL  155 654   6   80  56 .304 .341 .408
    D. Parker, RF      PIT  157 630  13   88  15 .314 .359 .465
    Code:
    TOP PITCHERS
    Player        Team  G  W  L  S   ERA     IP   HA  BB   K   K/9
    T. Seaver      NYM 35 13 14  0  2.61  279.2  227  89 220  7.08
    S. Carlton     PHI 35 21  8  0  2.59  277.2  235  97 175  5.67
    J. Montefusco   SF 34 14 11  0  2.79  264.2  248  74 184  6.26
    B. Hooton      LAD 35 17 12  0  2.85  274.2  239  75 155  5.08
    D. Sutton      LAD 32 13 12  0  2.54  252.0  229  68 132  4.71
    R. Reed        PHI 33 17  8  0  1.97  214.2  174  35 110  4.61
    J. Reuss       PIT 35 19 11  0  2.88  272.0  269  69 129  4.27
    J. Koosman     NYM 34 15 12  0  2.97  260.2  228  75 162  5.59
    J. Candelaria  PIT 31 15  8  0  2.58  240.1  201  65 154  5.77
    R. Jones        SD 32 16 12  0  3.07  264.0  265  42  80  2.73
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    APRIL '76
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    04/09/76  CHI  0 @ StL  7  WP - B. Forsch (1-0)       LP - R. REUSCHEL (0-1)                           0-1
    04/10/76  CHI  1 @ StL  2  WP - J. Denny (1-0)        LP - S. RENKO (0-1)     Sv - A. Hrabosky (1)     0-2
    04/11/76  CHI  8 @ StL  5  WP - R. HERNANDEZ (1-0)    LP - J. Curtis (0-1)    Sv - R. GOSSAGE (1)      1-2
     
    04/13/76  NYM  2 @ CHI  3  WP - J. COLEMAN (1-0)      LP - J. Matlack (0-1)   Sv - R. HERNANDEZ (1)    2-2
    04/14/76  NYM  1 @ CHI  5  WP - F. BARRIOS (1-0)      LP - T. Seaver (0-1)                             3-2
    04/15/76  NYM  3 @ CHI  1  WP - B. Apodaca (1-0)      LP - R. GOSSAGE (0-1)                            3-3
     
    04/17/76  PHI  8 @ CHI  5  WP - L. Christenson (1-0)  LP - S. RENKO (0-2)     Sv - T. McGraw (1)       3-4
    04/18/76  PHI 11 @ CHI 12  WP - B. JOHNSON (1-0)      LP - T. McGraw (0-2)    Sv - R. GOSSAGE (2)      4-4
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    04/06/76 - 04/11/76 at St. Louis

    The Cubs didn't fare too well in their opening series in St. Louis, dropping two of three. In the opener, the Cubs were dominated by Bob Forsch, who shut Chicago out, 7-0, scattering six hits and a walk. However, 50 year-old Chicago legend Minnie Minoso grounded out to short in the first, to make an appearance in his fourth decade. Minoso, who first appeared with Cleveland in 1949, retired following the game and was replaced on the roster by Larry Biitner, who can ably man first and the corner outfield spots.

    Game two of the series was much closer, but John Denny out-dueled Steve Renko, winning 2-1. Denny allowed four hits and a run over seven innings, while Renko was troubled by base-runners over his entire outing, allowing seven hits and five walks in 7.2 innings. Mike Tyson's bases-loaded bloop single in the sixth inning plated the second, and winning, run for the Redbirds. Chicago catcher Sam Ewing had two of the Cubs' six hits in the contest.

    The Cubs managed to avoid a sweep in the series finale, scoring three runs in the 10th inning to give the squad an 8-5 win against their heated rivals. Chicago hitters roughed up St. Louis starter Lynn McGlothen for 10 hits over seven innings. Jose Cardenal, Ralph Garr, Chet Lemon and Brian Downing each had two hits in the victory. It was Lemon's based-loaded triple in the 10th, off John Denny, that capped the scoring for Chicago.
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    I'll be reading. I just started a solo game in '77, after of course like three months of putting in correct salaries and coaches and stuff because I don't know how to have fun.
    I understand that and fully understand that and I think we had a previous President who did not understand that but I understand that and we have spoken about this before.

    Please note this post was made by the 2012 NFL Losers Pool Champion.

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    04/13/76 - 04/15/76 vs. New York

    The Cubs opened the home portion of their schedule with a three-game set against the New York Mets. In the series opener, the Mets started tough lefty Jon Matlack, while the Cubs countered with Joe Coleman. New York wasted no time, jumping on Coleman for three hits and a pair of runs in the top of the first. Coleman settled in after that, scattering four more hits over his remaining six innings. Matlack was at the top of his game, allowing just three singles, and no runs, over his first five innings. However, the Cubs got to the Mets hurler in the sixth. After fanning Brian Downing to open the frame, Matlack allowed a single, by Jose Cardenal, under the outstretched glove of 2B Felix Millan. The next batter, Ralph Garr, cut the lead in half with an RBI double to right-center. Following a walk to the next hitter, Bill Madlock, Andre Thornton drove in the tying and go-ahead run on a triple that bounced around the right-field corner. Coleman held the Mets for more inning and gave way to Ramon Hernandez, who shut down the Mets over the final two innings, gaining his first save of the season. However, after the game Hernandez was diagnosed with a sprained elbow and placed on the disabled list. Reliever Dave Hamilton was recalled from Wichita to take his roster spot. Garr collected three of the Cubs' eight hits in the contest.

    The Cubs jumped all over Mets ace Tom Seaver in game two, scoring three runs in the bottom of the first. Jose Cardenal greeted Seaver with a lead-off double in the bottom of the first, and scored one batter later when Ralph Garr lined a single to right-center, which Dave Kingman was unable to field quickly enough to prevent him scoring. The Cubs added two more in the frame on RBI singles by Rick Monday and Jorge Orta. The Cubs added another run in the 3rd on a Rick Monday homer, the team's first of the season. The Cubs scored their fifth, and final, run of the game on a Jose Cardenal single in the 4th. Chicago starter, Francisco Barrios, was in complete control, allowing a meaningless run in the 8th, en route to the 5-1 win.

    In the series finale, the Mets' Nino Espinosa and Chicago's Rick Reuschel engaged in a pitcher's duel, both hurling seven innings of one-run ball. The game was decided when the Mets touched Chicago closer Rich Gossage for a pair of runs in the top of the 11th, giving the Mets a 3-1 win. Ralph Garr and Rick Monday both contributed three hits for the Cubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by attackemu View Post
    I'll be reading. I just started a solo game in '77, after of course like three months of putting in correct salaries and coaches and stuff because I don't know how to have fun.
    1977 and 78 are my favorite baseball seasons for a variety of reasons (despite the Dodgers falling short in the World Series each time) and I've started OOTP leagues a half dozen times or so with those years. I never make it too far along but when a new version comes out, I usually give it another go. I can probably fill out 90% of the roster for every team from that era.

    Looking at the prediction for the 76 ChiSox (34 wins) I have to wonder what they were left with to make up their roster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LivnLegend View Post
    1977 and 78 are my favorite baseball seasons for a variety of reasons (despite the Dodgers falling short in the World Series each time)
    Mine too!

    Following this thread with interest. This is right when I became a baseball fanatic.

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    04/17/76 - 04/18/76 vs. Philadelphia

    After a strong, but unfruitful, start in his first outing of the season, Steve Renko was looking for a strong follow-up with the Phillies visiting the Friendly Confines for a quick two-game weekend set. Philadelphia right-fielder Jay Johnstone, however, had other ideas, collecting three hits and five RBIs as the Phillies dropped the Cubs under .500, winning 8-5. Johnstone had a two-run double in the first and contributed a three-run homer in the seventh, both off Renko (0-2). Dave Cash also contributed three hits for the Phillies. Chicago back-up catcher Sam Ewing chipped in three hits in the loss, his second multi-hit game of the week.

    The Cubs managed to get back to .500 by out-slugging the Phillies, scoring a 12-11 win in the conclusion of the two-game set. Ralph Garr, Brian Downing and Jack Brohamer all collected three hits for the Cubs, who had 15 hits in the contest. The Phillies responded strong to the Cubs three-run first by jumping all over Cubs starter Bill Bonham for six runs in the second. The Phillies kept their foot on the accelerator, scoring five more runs over their next three frames, extending their lead to 11-6, by the 5th inning. However, the Cubs mounted a huge comeback in the bottom of the 7th, scoring six times, highlighted by a two-out double by Garr, scoring Chet Lemon and Brohamer, which put the Cubs ahead for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LivnLegend View Post
    1977 and 78 are my favorite baseball seasons for a variety of reasons (despite the Dodgers falling short in the World Series each time) and I've started OOTP leagues a half dozen times or so with those years. I never make it too far along but when a new version comes out, I usually give it another go. I can probably fill out 90% of the roster for every team from that era.

    Looking at the prediction for the 76 ChiSox (34 wins) I have to wonder what they were left with to make up their roster.
    Yeah, the Sox aren't looking too hot. The "name" players on the roster include John D'Acquisto, Dave Frost, Roy Thomas, Tim Stoddard, Ray Fosse, Mike Squires, Rob Ellis, Royle Stillman and Jim Tyrone. The roster is also filled with players like Mitch Lukevics, Rick Stelmaszek and Tom Heintzelman, none of which I can recall at all.

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    I had to look up Royle Stillman. I feel I should have remembered that name. Or at least his baseball card, like with Jim Tyrone who had a visually appealing, everything straight out of the 70s, Topps card.
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