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    Quote Originally Posted by UngratefulDead View Post
    WaPo says Mueller's team is specifically disputing that Cohen told them that the President instructed him to lie to Congress and that it was backed up by other witnesses or documents. That would certainly qualify is totally botched if true.
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    So... Don’t hear too many people complaining any more that Mueller isn’t focused enough on Russia.
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    Reviewing Football Manager is like reviewing Buddhism. Yes, you can do it, but you have to take your time.

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    I don't see any way these people couldn't look more complicit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @kenvogel
    DETAILS: Judge rules that MANAFORT intentionally lied to MUELLER about:
    1) a $$$ arrangement related to pro-TRUMP super PAC @RebuildingAmNow
    2) communications with his Russian-intel linked deputy KONSTANTIN KILIMNIK
    3) matters related to another investigation by @TheJusticeDept
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    The government is recommending 19-24 years for Manafort.
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    From the judge's remarks

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    Great article, and one that goes a long way to explaining why, even though Russia undoubtedly did whatever it could to influence the 2016 election, that's just not the most important part of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eck View Post
    Great article, and one that goes a long way to explaining why, even though Russia undoubtedly did whatever it could to influence the 2016 election, that's just not the most important part of the story.
    I would argue that the two go hand in hand and can't easily be separated. To the extent that one is more important than the other I would argue that Russia helping to install a very sympathetic beneficiary of their corruption to the highest office in the land is ultimately the bigger story. Not so much because of anything about Donald Trump personally, per se, because it shows that kleptocracy and oligarchy are even bigger problems than we had conceived of previously in our new Gilded Age. And that's why g20's scrupulous downplaying of Russian interference never made sense to me. A thoroughly corrupt anti-democratic kleptocracy managed to successfully install an equally corrupt tool in a complete subversion of democracy. That's a very, very bad thing!
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